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Everyone is missing the obvious reason GPT-5 doesn't feel like a huge leap:
AI progress doesn't feel exponential anymore, but it's still moving just as fast as ever.
From GPT-3 to GPT-4, we saw almost no significant model releases in between, so GPT-4 felt revolutionary when it dropped.
But after GPT-4, we've seen dozens, possibly hundreds, of incremental improvements from OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, Meta, and others. By the time GPT-5 arrived, we'd already experienced a lot of its "magic" in smaller doses.
However, if you directly compare GPT-4 at launch to GPT-5 today, the jump in capabilities is just as dramatic as GPT-3 to GPT-4 was... we've just gotten used to incremental updates.
Things aren't slowing down.
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Now that GPT-5 is out, how do you think I did?
Were my predictions for the model correct?
15.4.2024
My predictions for GPT-5 capabilities:
From least to most interesting:
- significantly longer context length + far greater ability to use it effectively (i.e. ability to reason across needles within haystack tests)
- much more multimodal (both in terms of # of modalities and how ‘deep’ each one goes)
- multimodal outputs, though I’d guess some modalities will be disabled at launch (safety etc. etc.)
- imagine talking directly to GPT-5, and it talks back, without using Whisper or Voice Engine
- Q* reasoning breakthrough
- Two modes: reasoning + normal — Q* may take significant inference time/cost so unless there’s an efficiency breakthrough, they may also offer a normal-response mode like we see today
- Similarly, GPT-5 may have a more advanced form of adaptive compute/Q* usage… the harder the query, the more power it puts behind it to provide a great solution
- 10x better agentic capabilities… simple/constrained agents will be mostly solved, and we will get much closer to real-world, generalist agents
- ability to backtrack — beyond reflection, GPT-5 will be able to recognize mistakes as it answers, and correct course
- insane levels of coherence across long-term data… we’ll start to think less about using separate systems to enable memory and more about just embedding all memories in the prompt… this will also push agents forward
- with these last three points, you’ll be able to leave GPT-5 alone and let it complex tasks for you, and trust that it actually gets them right without needing to check its work
- trained on an OOM more data than previous models, much of which is collected from ChatGPT, cleaned, improved, cast to other modalities, etc.
- post-trained on far *better* data than current leading models
- we’ll start to see glimpses of capabilities far beyond what we talk about today — for example, it’ll have closer-to-usable abilities to do scientific research
What did I miss? What do you think?
Reply and let me know.
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The new Rork Agent is, by far, the best mobile app building agent in the world.
If you’re looking to build an iOS or Android app, you need to try it.
ASAP.
17 tuntia sitten
Introducing the new Rork Agent for mobile apps
・90% less errors with error auto-fixes
・New powerful agentic tools
・10x smarter with best practices from Claude Code
・Produces the best UI – using both GPT-5 & Sonnet 4
The best agent for mobile apps is here 👇
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A lot of folks who are having a bad experience are using GPT-5 in agent harnesses that aren't yet optimized for it.
For every new model release, there's a time lag between release + when companies that integrate the model have it truly working well.
Agent companies rush to switch the model param in their codebase to `gpt-5` or whatever the newest model is, and it works well enough, but it takes days to weeks to actually get the model running as intended (prompt, harness, tool tweaks are almost always necessary, to reflect how the model was trained).
If you had a bad experience using GPT-5 in a coding harness (@cline, @cursor_ai, etc.), give it a week, and try again. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Rork just got a huge upgrade. GPT-5 makes it 10x more capable.
If you've been wanting to build an iPhone app, try it out now!!
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GPT-5 is now in Rork.
And it’s incredible.
→ 190% better than Claude 4 on Rork’s mobile app benchmark
→ Better at reasoning/logic
→ Makes very beautiful UIs
Try it now in Rork. Let us know what you think!
And stay tuned. We're not finished.
An even bigger update is coming soon 👀
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Matt Shumer kirjasi uudelleen
GPT-5 is live in Cline.
We've been working with OpenAI to get this model ready, and here's our take: it's disciplined, persistent, & highly competent.
It's collaborative in planning & and a diligent operator while acting.
It plans thoroughly, asks optioned follow-ups when needed, & then gets out of the way and ships code. On long tasks it keeps going before pausing to check in.
It follows instructions to the letter. And most importantly -- it writes good code.
GPT-5 is like "The Wolf" from Pulp Fiction. Comes in, assesses the situation, then executes.
Here's what you can expect from GPT-5 in Cline:
> verbose while planning; terse while executing
> asks a lot of good clarification questions, & frequently provides options when appropriate
> strong context retention and persistence over long horizons (256k context window)
> good at diff-style edits and multi-file changes (we'll monitor as more usage data comes in)
> quiet in Act mode -- writes code without yapping
Metaprompting is another strength. We tested early with OpenAI and used GPT-5 to tune our own prompt for GPT-5. Here's a pattern we like:
“Answer from your own perspective: what changes or additions would help you better follow this prompt? Here is the prompt (or snippet): [snippet]. Users have complained about X and Y. What minimal edits would you make while keeping the rest intact?”
Do you need to change any of your existing patterns in Cline? No -- it's good out of the box. Give a clear goal and constraints, let it plan, then let it cook. Expect more clarifying questions than most models.
Pricing: $1.25/M input tokens (+90% cache), $10/M output. Roughly half of Sonnet 4 ($3/$15).
Want to try GPT-5? Use it in Cline today for pure, unfiltered inference via the OpenAI, Cline, or OpenRouter providers.
(fyi -- GPT-5 one-shotted this browser DAW below on the prompt "build something impressive to show me what you're capable of")
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