Okay, I found one product that falls into this Venn diagram well. → Giza: the name is Giza and @S4mmyEth mentioned it under the tweet below They announced that the product has done a total of $750m in agentic volume since its start after announcing a milestone of $500m 4 days before that day. This brought a lot of attention to the product itself and the announcement post. To be honest, this is the first time I’ll be seeing these guys, and after a quick run-through of what they offer It’s DeFi automation The product allows AI agents to help users make wise and calculated DeFi moves automatically without needing anyone to fully control them. I didn’t go deep but this is what I could get from scrolling through their page But the thing here is these guys are similar to the likes of Infinit Labs, Magic Newton, and other AI agents we’ve seen in the space They are not on Kaito like the others and yet their volumes are doing really well. The usage is there and they seem more coordinated than the ones I’ve seen on Kaito. What could this mean? If these guys could generate such volume and retain users without the help of K4it0 Then are we going to say it’s a total skill issue for the ones who listed on Kaito and still couldn’t retain attention/users after TGE? 🤔